Only one episode of the Generation grannY Podcast with special guest, Miss America 2013 Mallory Hagan, was simply not enough! A second mini-episode (only 30 minutes this time) was a necessity.

Mallory was featured on Desiree’s season of The Bachelorette, and considering I spend 3-4 hours of my week writing Bachelor Recaps, it only seems right that I get the scoop from someone who was on the show!

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Mallory even texted her old pal Chris Harrison (casual) on Monday night when we were watching JoJo’s Hometown episode! What did The Host with the Most text her back? Who do we think will win this season? How do we feel about all the unreasonably tight man pants?

We also discuss Mallory’s personal branding company, the ways Miss USA (different from Miss America) made strides this year for the reputation of pageants, and Mallory’s view of the pageant world after making it all the way to the top.

Enjoy!