My good friend, Mallory Hagan (Miss America 2013) came to play with me in Virginia Beach for a few days! Obviously, we had to do a podcast…or two. We talk about it all, from the difference between beauty pageants in the South vs. North to guys who’ve ghosted us. (The WORST, am I right??) We also touch on the pros and cons of texting, plus body image and catty online message boards.

Then there are these questions: What was it like for Mallory to see her pictures in tabloid magazines? What ran through her mind right when she was crowned Miss America (the honest truth)? Am I the uncool Miss New York?

This is one you don’t want to miss, trust me. Enjoy!